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Post by whiteshadow on Nov 29, 2008 14:59:49 GMT
This is just purely for the fun we had in it on the last forum xD Tom, you can start xD
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Post by Root Admin on Nov 29, 2008 15:43:43 GMT
This is just purely for the fun we had in it on the last forum xD The fun talking about it. I just got in before the innuendo started running. Anyway, I see underage sex as one of the most pointless things possible. Sex is the consummation of two people's love for each other, not something that involves two people "having a bit of fun". I may sound a bit cynical, but I think that a maximum of 1% of teen relationships are built on anything other than two people going "U r wel fit init. Wana go out.". Therefore, these people then think that because they are now "going out", they are obliged to rush into sex. There is no reason that two people who loved each other couldn't wait until they were of age to have sex. Instead, these relationships founded on the "Fkn fit" principle have the two people rushing into sex and ending up with a baby or an STI. This is all just basically reiterating a blog post I did a while back. Here is a link to it: tombeasley.blogspot.com/2008/10/teen-relationships.html
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Post by whiteshadow on Nov 30, 2008 13:18:18 GMT
This is just purely for the fun we had in it on the last forum xD The fun talking about it. I just got in before the innuendo started running. Anyway, I see underage sex as one of the most pointless things possible. Sex is the consummation of two people's love for each other, not something that involves two people "having a bit of fun". I may sound a bit cynical, but I think that a maximum of 1% of teen relationships are built on anything other than two people going "U r wel fit init. Wana go out.". Therefore, these people then think that because they are now "going out", they are obliged to rush into sex. There is no reason that two people who loved each other couldn't wait until they were of age to have sex. Instead, these relationships founded on the "Fkn fit" principle have the two people rushing into sex and ending up with a baby or an STI. This is all just basically reiterating a blog post I did a while back. Here is a link to it: tombeasley.blogspot.com/2008/10/teen-relationships.htmlOne thing I picked up from reading that about how people can wait until they are the legal age to have sex is that, they actually have to keep the relationship alive until the legal age to have sex. Most teenagers are incapeable of doing this as they get bored of the same person after so long so they end the relationship. So in some respect, give that the teens are smart not stupid, it can actually save a relationship aswell. And your right, teens use sex as a reputation boost with their mates to make them seem "hard" or somewhat of a "rebel". IDIOTS. Considering they might not even know how to put on a condom as speaking to a lot of boys about it they don't know either. This runs the risk of underage pregnancy and STD's etc etc and it's just disgusting tbh. I'm not saying in all honesty that I am totally bound of no sex until the legal age. Probability might have it that I am. I'm just saying that these people need to THINK before they act. otherwise it's just pure disaster.
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Post by Root Admin on Nov 30, 2008 13:33:59 GMT
One thing I picked up from reading that about how people can wait until they are the legal age to have sex is that, they actually have to keep the relationship alive until the legal age to have sex. Most teenagers are incapeable of doing this as they get bored of the same person after so long so they end the relationship. So in some respect, give that the teens are smart not stupid, it can actually save a relationship aswell. You are right. But, if the relationship is strong enough that it is worth having sex, then they would be able to stay together. And your right, teens use sex as a reputation boost with their mates to make them seem "hard" or somewhat of a "rebel". IDIOTS. This is the worst bit of it. A beautiful expression of love and passion reduced to something as pathetic as a reputation boosting exercise. Pisses me off no end! Considering they might not even know how to put on a condom as speaking to a lot of boys about it they don't know either. This runs the risk of underage pregnancy and STD's etc etc and it's just disgusting tbh. I'm not saying in all honesty that I am totally bound of no sex until the legal age. Probability might have it that I am. I'm just saying that these people need to THINK before they act. otherwise it's just pure disaster. This brings us back to the sex education conversation we had. Kids need to have some form of sex and relationship education from a very early age. It could start at primary school age with lessons about relationships without going into the sexual stuff, talking about love and things like that. Then it could progress into the sex education that we all need but don't get, such as how to put on a condom etc.
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Post by whiteshadow on Nov 30, 2008 13:42:03 GMT
An advantage of having the lessons early on like in primary is that the kids arn't mature enough to be immature if you know what I mean by that?
The problem with doing it in secondary schools is that the kids are mature enough to be immature so they just piss about during the sex ed lessons and they don't really learn anything.
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Post by Root Admin on Nov 30, 2008 13:44:46 GMT
An advantage of having the lessons early on like in primary is that the kids arn't mature enough to be immature if you know what I mean by that? The problem with doing it in secondary schools is that the kids are mature enough to be immature so they just piss about during the sex ed lessons and they don't really learn anything. I agree. The younger kids will not giggle every time something like that is mentioned, whereas the older kids will.
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Post by whiteshadow on Nov 30, 2008 13:46:47 GMT
disadvantage is that the younger kids might not understand these things. so perhaps... year 7/8 might work.
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Post by Root Admin on Nov 30, 2008 13:48:18 GMT
disadvantage is that the younger kids might not understand these things. so perhaps... year 7/8 might work. What I would say is that you start with some low level education on relationships and the importance of love at younger ages, so that by the time you move on to the more sexual stuff, the kids don't associate relationships with things they found out about illicitly and giggled about.
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Post by whiteshadow on Nov 30, 2008 13:51:44 GMT
The only issue I have with that is "the importance of love at younger ages". Tbh Tom, since when did anyone ever understand love? and how can we teach how to understand love?
Love never comes in a way people expect, it comes in many different forms. Mine took 6 years lol. Some might come over the internet or at first site. Some might be with a friend you've had for years. We can't teach the importance of love. but we can at least teach the important of sex. In the end it's all dependant on the kids reactions. Some kids might get curious and go for it =/
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Post by crazer123 on Dec 1, 2008 14:53:56 GMT
they dont even teach you the right stuff in it, it needs to be more practical kinda thing... so instead of saying "here is a sperm, it swims about goes in the egg blah blah blah" They need to tell you about the practical side of things, like what the different STI's are and what they can cause, how to put on a condom properly (they are fiddly and annoying though) things like that, because it will help you alot more knowing how to prevent getting your gf preggo and gettin STI's than knowing all the different parts of a sperm cell. and also some people do see it as a confidence boost, and others dont tell anybody because they dont want everybody to know what they do as they dont want to have the rep of being a manwhore
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Post by Root Admin on Dec 1, 2008 16:58:52 GMT
they dont even teach you the right stuff in it, it needs to be more practical kinda thing... so instead of saying "here is a sperm, it swims about goes in the egg blah blah blah" They need to tell you about the practical side of things, like what the different STI's are and what they can cause, how to put on a condom properly (they are fiddly and annoying though) things like that, because it will help you alot more knowing how to prevent getting your gf preggo and gettin STI's than knowing all the different parts of a sperm cell. and also some people do see it as a confidence boost, and others dont tell anybody because they dont want everybody to know what they do as they dont want to have the rep of being a manwhore I agree with pretty much everything you've said there.
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Post by crazer123 on Dec 4, 2008 16:57:30 GMT
have you heard about the new thing inplace?
everybody under 19 gets free condoms... do you think this is a good or bad thing as it could encourage some people to have sex =S
my opinion is that its a good idea and should hopefully work well, as i know plently of people who dont use condoms because they either dont have any with them at the time or just dont bother paying for them.
whereas if you could get them free, you could go out with one (or two... or three) always in your pocket just encase you end up gettin laid, and it wouldnt matter if you used them or not because they were free.... so you can just throw them away before you get home
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Post by Root Admin on Dec 4, 2008 17:07:26 GMT
That is possibly the worst idea I have ever heard. I can see exactly why they have done it. They seem to have taken the opinion (wrongly) that there is nothing they can do about teenagers having sex, so they have decided that the best they can do is ensure this sex is safe. On one hand, this might discourage young people from having sex as it removes the aspect of rebellion that some of them use as their main driving force. However, this will be insubstantial when compared to the huge numbers of teenagers who now think that it is fine to have sex at a young age. This whole idea works on the fact that condoms are foolproof. Normally, a condom is very safe. I believe (but don't hold me to this) that condoms are 97% effective in the prevention if pregnancy and STIs. Great, except the fact that this percentage is irrelevant if you don't know how to use them properly. Most teenagers think they know what they are doing with a condom, but may end up doing something wrong resulting in the device splitting or slipping off during intercourse. I honestly can't believe that whoever introduced this measure could be so stupid.
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Post by crazer123 on Dec 4, 2008 17:13:49 GMT
They seem to have taken the opinion (wrongly) that there is nothing they can do about teenagers having sex seriously tom, there is no way to stop us having sex at like 14, 15 but the problem is that people ruin it for the rest by gettin their girlfriend pregnant, people wouldnt care anywhere near as much if we didnt have such a high teen preggo rate... countrys like france and germany for example... they have a low teen preggo rate, yet their teens still shag like rabits.... lots of teens are at it like rabits and dont get anybody pregnant so choose not to tell anybody that they are at it because they dont want to be frowned upon for having underage sex as everybody will have a go to either stop, or make sure she never ever gets pregnant
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Post by Root Admin on Dec 4, 2008 17:16:57 GMT
They seem to have taken the opinion (wrongly) that there is nothing they can do about teenagers having sex seriously tom, there is no way to stop us having sex at like 14, 15 but the problem is that people ruin it for the rest by gettin their girlfriend pregnant, people wouldnt care anywhere near as much if we didnt have such a high teen preggo rate... countrys like france and germany for example... they have a low teen preggo rate, yet their teens still shag like rabits.... lots of teens are at it like rabits and dont get anybody pregnant so choose not to tell anybody that they are at it because they dont want to be frowned upon for having underage sex as everybody will have a go to either stop, or make sure she never ever gets pregnant I don't understand the need for teenagers to have sex. If you love a person enough that the relationship is worthy of sex, then you would be able to wait until legal age.
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Post by crazer123 on Dec 4, 2008 17:43:17 GMT
because it isnt all about love, the soul purpose of sex these days aint love
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Post by Root Admin on Dec 4, 2008 19:41:31 GMT
because it isnt all about love, the soul purpose of sex these days aint love I'm not saying love is the sole purpose, just that it should be the main one. Regardless of whether love is the main purpose or not, I am saying that it definitely should be. I have lost count of how many times I have had to say that sex is the consummation of the love between two people. That is the reason it is called "making love". What young people are doing with each other is devaluing sex and ensuring it becomes something sleazy and illicit.
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Post by crazer123 on Dec 6, 2008 13:04:21 GMT
its an act of passion, and you dont need to be madly in love with somebody to display passion
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