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Post by Root Admin on May 11, 2009 13:53:30 GMT
As the creator of ABC (alongside Tom and Callum, however, I am the Alpha, apparently), I've come to the conclusion that ABC is simply not getting the attention it deserves, as a company, and an idea.
Therefore, the ABC program is being renovated, and a new, better site is being created by a professional, a family friend, in fact, who has agreed to make ABC a flash website, our OWN forum (not a PB one) and able to stream radio via our HQ (our school) on the website.
Thus, ABC will have a new, improved image, and will be a lot more 'out there', and we may even get some publicity.
Currently we are delving into our own pockets, however if you now of anyone who would sponsor the company, please don't hesitate to contact me on joeoconnell_@hotmail.com, and we'll come to some sort of agreement.
As our loyal members will well know, all of the sites previous incarnations have worked until they, er, broke. I assure you that this man is a professional at his craft and that this site will be better than ever.
So forth, ABC will be a kind of duplicate site starting from mid-June, but don't worry, it'll be finished!
Thank you,
~ Joe
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Post by TomBeasley on May 11, 2009 17:13:07 GMT
Firstly:  Secondly, I see no reason why this forum cannot continue until this new thing is made. |
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Post by iDesign on May 11, 2009 17:17:05 GMT
This sounds arrogant, but do I still need to make a skin? Note that I only do PB skins, not phbBB or whatever you plan on using.
Edit: Tom, you didn't even know?
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Post by Shakti on May 11, 2009 17:41:29 GMT
Personally, I quite like this as it is, but I doubt I have a say.
Although I'm wondering why noone told Tom...
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Post by damselindistress on May 11, 2009 17:57:43 GMT
Firstly: Secondly, I see no reason why this forum cannot continue until this new thing is made. I agree. |
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Post by Don't Bother on May 11, 2009 18:47:23 GMT
I'll start by answering a couple of questions.
Tom, I didn't tell you simply because I didn't see you. However, I did drop you a line on Facebook, and you of course have every right to say what you want. I made this decision on the basis of a majority vote in favour of a "super-site" from myself, Callum and Nathan. However, I DO want to discuss this with you, so please contact me via IM.
iDesign, you are completely free to do as you wish. The man who has agreed to make the site, forum and fix up the radio stream is a family friend, but I made it specifically clear that we DO have a designer, but that it is completely up to you, iDesign.
The reason behind this is that, great as ABC is, we simply aren't getting what we deserve, as you, the community, or the idea as an entity. Securing funds should be easier than any other company as I believe there is a Youth Idea account thingy where the Government funds projects run by youths. The fact that not only are we a anti-bullying site, but also cover all the other areas, and are teenagers (key word) should make it slightly easier to secure funding, as teenage life is practically our area of expertise!
However, simply having a forum, from a free hosting site, and a large amount of members being friends, schoolmates or from Cherub Forums, lol, won't cut it if we want to fulfill this sites full potential. Now I'm not saying you, the ABC Community, is a waste of time, how could I? But we need to extend our member-base and just let everyone know who we are really.
Thus, the man who is building our new site is a professional, as he made my Mum and Dad's companies website, and many others, and they turned out great! He isn't free however, but being a friend of the family it will be cheaper for us, and what with various funding, sponsors and fund-raising events it should be possible.
What I'm saying is, I'm not a Nazi-preacher going on about how great we are and how we're better than everyone else, but we do need that dose of professionalism if we want to make a mark.
The reason for not keeping this site was just going out on a whim really, I just wanted to see what I could do with proboards, and it turned out kind of well, really, but to be honest, that as just me thinking, so I'll edit the title of this thread.
Feedback would be appreciated and all your thoughts have been taken into account, I just hope mine have too.
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Post by TomBeasley on May 11, 2009 19:04:29 GMT
I think that it would be great to have this super-site idea. However, I don't think we need a new forum with it. I think that we would be just fine to keep this forum along with the new super-site. If you check out some of the forum's iDesign has designed ( this and this), it is clear that he can do amazing things with PB. Therefore, if he were to work on the forum whilst your family friend works on the super-site, then I think we would do very well. Another person we need to take into account in this is Mark. Bear in mind that he is currently funding the whole thing. |
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Post by Don't Bother on May 11, 2009 20:18:13 GMT
Mhm, well, it appears that iDesign has done a stellar job with those sites, so consider that taken into account and a very high possibility. However, our own forum layout would be pretty neat. I'm filling in a form for ABC, for YOF, the Coventry City Council's Youth Organisation Funding thing. We need a supporting adult, and I was thinking of Mr. Phipps, but to be honest, if we mentioned school, they might not buy it, and tell the school to fund it instead. Instead, another FOF (friend of family) has got funding from the City Council before, using YOF, and so she has agreed to be the supporting adult. I'm going to a quote cash-wise, and it appears we need to get ABC a bank account, and VAT and all of that crap, and none of that makes sense to me, so if anyone lives in Coventry and can do that, please help us out.  I reckon for a great website, possibly a forum, and link to Phipps' radio-hobbit hole, we're talking about 4-5 grand here. I reckon we only need about 3 grand from the council, and the rest we can cobble together via sponsors and fund-raising? Tom, emergency ABC meeting on Wednesday - you got to be there, as we do need to think this through properly. But its gonna be AWESOME!! P.S. if anyone wanted to see my garish attempt at a proboards forum see here: www.abc-exclusive.proboards.com |
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Post by TomBeasley on May 12, 2009 18:36:05 GMT
I will be there tomorrow, yes.
Also, I love this idea. I do still think we should keep the PB forum.
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Post by TomBeasley on May 13, 2009 14:32:24 GMT
Well it's Wednesday and it's meeting time. I'm here and you're not, so...
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Post by Eilidh on May 15, 2009 18:46:03 GMT
This sounds great, but £5000 pounds is a lot of money... anyone for doing a sponsored Macarena?  |
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Post by Evil Inclination on May 16, 2009 6:39:20 GMT
Um... how in any way is this forum a company? This sounds like a good idea but how does a website make a forum get more activity, exactly? It really does sound arrogant.  |
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Post by damselindistress on May 17, 2009 2:25:20 GMT
I don't think you should close down this forum. I agree with part of what Evil Inclinations is saying. It doesn't sound arrogant, but opening a web-site doesn't actually help activity. Advertising, making threads, and getting people interested does. The reason you find huge forums on paid sites is because usually they were 1) already a huge active site and decided to make a forum to go along with it or 2) they were a huge active forum and decided to stop being hosted by a free place and moved. This site is neither of those things.
I'm worried that if you keep changing the location that it's actually going to lower your activity more and more over time. People may return and see the site is closed down and give up on it. It's already really discouraged me.
I don't see the point of closing this place. You can keep it open (and maybe change the name) and make a new forum, too. I'll still join the new forum, but it would really upset me if this forum was taken down.
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Post by TomBeasley on May 17, 2009 13:59:09 GMT
EI: When this concept was conceived, it was originally going to be a website, not a forum. Then, at some point during the process, I suggested that a forum would be a good way to sort people's problems. We went with this idea and, over time, the site took a back seat at the expense of the forum. That is why Joe feels we should move elsewhere.
However, I agree with what Liz is saying that moving the forum would lower activity. That is why I think we should keep this forum along with the new site.
Joe, another thing. After this forum started to show activity, I realised that having a site does not help this organisation at all. The only thing we need is this forum and anything else was just branching out too far, particularly the ideas of radio and stuff which is just unnecessary.
But, we do have the opportunity to get this site for free, so we may as well go for it and see how things turn out. I do think we should keep this forum though as the main crux of ABC.
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Post by florida on May 18, 2009 22:34:59 GMT
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Post by damselindistress on May 19, 2009 17:19:49 GMT
Yea, and you don't have all the options of advertising on Proboards if you aren't hosted on Proboards. It really is in your best interest to have the forum hosted here.
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Post by Nathan 2 on May 21, 2009 11:25:09 GMT
I think a proper hosted board will be better, allowing new options etc, because I also kinda hate the wasted space on either side of the forum, but I don't know if that's editable or not?
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Post by damselindistress on May 21, 2009 21:07:12 GMT
I think a proper hosted board will be better, allowing new options etc, because I also kinda hate the wasted space on either side of the forum, but I don't know if that's editable or not? Yes, it's editable using codes. |
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Post by Anonymous on May 22, 2009 21:04:29 GMT
Can someone tell me what this site is necessary?
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Post by TomBeasley on May 24, 2009 14:21:20 GMT
I think a proper hosted board will be better, allowing new options etc, because I also kinda hate the wasted space on either side of the forum, but I don't know if that's editable or not? It is easy to make the forum a bit wider, but I don't think it should be /that/ wide. |
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Post by TomBeasley on May 24, 2009 21:16:54 GMT
You make a hell of a lot of sense actually. As much as Joe and Callum have complained about it being on Proboards, they have hardly done anything to make this forum any better.
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Post by Don't Bother on May 25, 2009 10:53:24 GMT
In light of that rather inspiring post by Anonymous, I'm gonna ask you, Tom, would you like to take control of ABC, fully, until a later date, if I may feel like rejoining again?
It'd be your forum, I'd still post and contribute a bit, however, your in year 10 and while your very busy, I'm finding it hard at the moment to fit everything in, mostly ABC.
So I'm gonna step down as admin, and I'll post, and keep the ABC Communist Party alive, lol, but would you like to own ABC?
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Post by TomBeasley on May 25, 2009 14:48:35 GMT
In light of that rather inspiring post by Anonymous, I'm gonna ask you, Tom, would you like to take control of ABC, fully, until a later date, if I may feel like rejoining again? It'd be your forum, I'd still post and contribute a bit, however, your in year 10 and while your very busy, I'm finding it hard at the moment to fit everything in, mostly ABC. So I'm gonna step down as admin, and I'll post, and keep the ABC Communist Party alive, lol, but would you like to own ABC? ABC was your idea. I wouldn't like any of you to step down completely. I wouldn't mind keeping the forum going. |
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Post by Shakti on May 25, 2009 15:16:44 GMT
I think the anon poster makes good points and I have a feeling I know the forum they're talking about.
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Post by Tsar Joe on May 25, 2009 17:56:29 GMT
In light of that rather inspiring post by Anonymous, I'm gonna ask you, Tom, would you like to take control of ABC, fully, until a later date, if I may feel like rejoining again? It'd be your forum, I'd still post and contribute a bit, however, your in year 10 and while your very busy, I'm finding it hard at the moment to fit everything in, mostly ABC. So I'm gonna step down as admin, and I'll post, and keep the ABC Communist Party alive, lol, but would you like to own ABC? ABC was your idea. I wouldn't like any of you to step down completely. I wouldn't mind keeping the forum going. As I said, I'd be on the forums, posting and stuff, but I'm too busy. Do you want it? Cos otherwise Callum'll get it and then... its not worth thinking about... |
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